Mulcair: NDP (willing) To Defeat Govt Over Anti-Democracy
12.14 mark. In context of discussion, asked about whether, upon reopening of Parliament, willing to defeat Govt as a result of anti-democratic behaviour and launch an election, NDP Deputy Leader says "The Govt has locked out Parliament and it's obvious in my view that the NDP could absolutely not support that and you will see a very severe attitude to the Govt". "Absolutely not support that", in the context of response to question about willingess to support or not the Govt, cause or not an election, means the NDP is willing to defeat them. Absolutely. I'm glad Mulcair has clarified the NDP position, and their earlier seemingly quiescent messaging was simply miscommunication. Looking forward to seeing them report for work on the Hill, as Canadians are demanding, on the 25th.
posted by Eugene Forsey Liberal @ 6:16 PM
7 Comments:
At 8:09 PM,
wilson said…
We need a majority government.
Majority Conservative or majority coalition...either way, let's roll!
At 11:01 PM,
Eugene Forsey Liberal said…
I realise you're a sad case, Wilson, but for other readers I'll elucidate the situation. The interesting point is that the LPC doesn't want an election, it just wants the Govt to recognise it's inferiority to Parliament, and let Parliament do its job, and if the Govt won't, then use all necessary tools to enforce the democratic will of the people as expressed by their parliamentarians. The LPC is showing up for work on Jan 25. The NDP leadership, as opposed to their membership & electorate, has so far been freaked out by the sort of popular response they always claim to favour. They are so wrapped up in anti-Liberal game theory plotting that when a clear issue of conscience & principle comes along, and the people rise, their first reaction is, "how can we use this to attack Libs?", and not "how can we best reassert parliamentray supremacy & democracy?". Since the LPC has been quick off the mark, and quickly agreed with CAPP demand that all parliamentarians show up for work on 25th, the NDP leadership, rather than doing the same, following the grassroots uprising of democrats as one would expect, given their rhetoric, has chosen instead to try to game the situation, causing disgust among their own activists, who only recently watched 1/3 of NDP caucus vote against gun control. The perverted logic of NDP leadership divas is as follows: "Libs going to Parliament on 25th? The we are NOT going, so there! Oh sure, CAPP & democrats everywhere, we support you, we're just not going to accede to your central demand, your very raison d'être." Mulcair's comment complicates the issue, as the NDP's official line doesn't match their membership's views, at all, and Mulcair is reflecting that. Logically, given what Mulcair said, and he is Deputy Leader, the NDP would also show up on the 25th. I hope they do. Defending democracy should not be a partisan issue. We shall see if the leadership, faced with Mulcair's statement and membership's incredulity, reverses itself on 25th, and decides to come to work, as CAPP demands, rather than sulk.
At 11:46 PM,
CanadianSense said…
It not the job of the NDP to prop up the Liberals.
The Liberals wimped out in Jan 2009 and Jack won't trust them anymore, why not let the LPOC go bankrupt and take more seats in Toronto/Vancouver.
Each political party is trying to win more seats.
At 9:33 AM,
Big Winnie said…
Nor is it the job of the NDP to prop up the CONs. So what's your point?
At 11:59 AM,
DavidA said…
The point, Big Winnie, is that all political parties are self serving and the NDP stand to gain more from the destruction of the Liberals than of the Conservatives.
At 12:09 PM,
CanadianSense said…
BigWinnie,
I did not suggest anything. Merely pointed out historical context and political realities. Each party is interested in their own agenda.
The NDP will not participate in losing their seats back to the Liberals. (Sept-Oct 2009)
The liberal bloggers are suggesting Jack is responsible (the house that jack built)
Tak a look at the widget suggesting the NDP are responsible for 1400+days of Harper.
If you would like to check how'd they vote, the Liberals have only voted 1x in 2009 to defeat Harper.
The NDP only showed up 1x to stop the Liberals steal their thunder.
I am in agreement from September Sudbury statements from Bob Rae and his faction to return the loyal opposition to the new normal.
or
Are you suggesting propping up the CPC agenda is the new normal for the Liberals?
At 12:14 AM,
marie said…
No Common Sense, if you don't like the chatter here go back to your CON lovers blog where you think nothing of diagreeing with their comments to the point of deleting the ones that come too close to the truth. Well CS, this is not your blog and you do not have the clicker in your hand's If you think anyone is going to agree with you here, your sadly mistake,
Goodbye
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