NDP Betrays Colvin, Opposition & All Folk Of Good Faith
Filibustering & shutting down Afghan Committee after four questions, on day facts catch up to Govt AND Committee has chance to questioning ministers, so even your own critic can't question ministers, is incompetence of the highest order. It is a betrayal of tortured Afghans & Canadian soldiers & public servants. To put your own petty, doomed, unnoticed, pointless & wrongheaded drama queen hijinks ahead of the nation's most serious public interest is despicable. Don't even try to spin as Govt's fault for invoking closure: of course they were going to and you wanted them to, that's the whole point - "Oh Oh they cut off debate, etc.". We all know this game. NDP have been on the other side in provincial government many times. To be so incompetent and so obsessed with gameplaying to the point you cut off Committee questioning of ministers on a major revelation day is beyond belief. I have praised all the Opposition on their handling of this issue, including NDP, but today the NDP really let down all the Opposition, Colvin, military, public servants and all people of good faith. Disgusting. Who "coordinated" this, Davies, Layton's office, Layton himself, who? Speaking of accountability, there should be some for and among the NDP. Unless of course Layton is feeling so threatened by Dewar he doesn't want him getting the limelight and wanted to prevent Dewar's primetime questioning of ministers. If I were Dewar & Harris, I'd be spitting mad. Ridiculous. And now the Committee is on break for six weeks! So we can't bring ministers back for six weeks! And the ministers were clearly unsettled by Natynczyk's morning statement and off their game: today was the ideal day for lengthy detailed questioning. But the NDP were so obsessed with their vapid pointscoring they played into Govt hands, pulled "fire bell" and gave Govt six weeks to try to bury story and fix the facts.
I am furious with NDP. There are some good serious members, like Comartin, Dewar & Harris, but the vast majority are vapid Layton Drama Queens, like Martin, Davies, Mulcair & Wasylycia-Leis. Can you imagine a Blaikie-led NDP behaving this incompetently/badly? Or any NDP caucus before Layton? This Layton NDP really is a disgrace. I'd hate to think young Canadians might grow up believing they are representative of social-democrats. They are not. What a bunch of incompetent, petty tossers. Their own hijinks, which were obviously doomed to failure, which was the point, on the wrong side of an issue (go check European social democrat view of value added taxes, their proper rates and administration), were more important to them than questioning the ministers responsible for Canada's complicity in torture?! It's pretty incredible to realise the NDP have given the Liberal OLO an out on Iggy & torture: whatever Iggy wrote while Opposition Leader, the LPC played torture responsibly and properly, and the NDP saw it as less important than their self-obsessed, self-indulgent voguing. Only the Layton NDP could find a way to make the NDP less credible on torture question than Iggy-led LPC. Incompetent, self-defeating tools.
I am furious with NDP. There are some good serious members, like Comartin, Dewar & Harris, but the vast majority are vapid Layton Drama Queens, like Martin, Davies, Mulcair & Wasylycia-Leis. Can you imagine a Blaikie-led NDP behaving this incompetently/badly? Or any NDP caucus before Layton? This Layton NDP really is a disgrace. I'd hate to think young Canadians might grow up believing they are representative of social-democrats. They are not. What a bunch of incompetent, petty tossers. Their own hijinks, which were obviously doomed to failure, which was the point, on the wrong side of an issue (go check European social democrat view of value added taxes, their proper rates and administration), were more important to them than questioning the ministers responsible for Canada's complicity in torture?! It's pretty incredible to realise the NDP have given the Liberal OLO an out on Iggy & torture: whatever Iggy wrote while Opposition Leader, the LPC played torture responsibly and properly, and the NDP saw it as less important than their self-obsessed, self-indulgent voguing. Only the Layton NDP could find a way to make the NDP less credible on torture question than Iggy-led LPC. Incompetent, self-defeating tools.


15 Comments:
At 7:18 PM,
CanadianSense said…
The NDP are cooperating with the CPC in the "cover up"?
really?
At 7:45 PM,
wilson said…
3 Generals, 1200 troops, the civil service and the entire government are colluding, don't yah know CS!
Ujjal Dosanjh was able to meltdown for the cameras.
No clip up yet, if ever.
I think he blew the Liberal case about Cons attacking Colvin....
At 7:59 PM,
Eugene Forsey Liberal said…
Sensitive, eh? I warned y'all, the longer the Govt waits, the worse it'll get. They're in a trap of their own making and like the proverbial fox, it would be best if they gnawed off their leg so they might survive. They'll lose a PM & a couple of minsters, and be disgraced, but better than letting the cancer spread and consume the CPC entirely, so next election is 1993 all over again. Pay less now, or pay more later. Up to them, story has unstoppable momentum. As I've often said, clock's ticking boys.
At 8:11 PM,
Anonymous said…
Thanks for buying the Conservative spin!
Even Ujjal Dosanjh admitted they were lying here and acknowledged that it was the Conservatives that called the vote that disrupted the committee. They just used a report moved by the NDP to do it to try to lay the the blame on them.
Congrats on falling for their silly trick, though.
At 8:21 PM,
CanadianSense said…
????
On what planet is the detainee issue a vote winner?
No one I know has denied a problem may have not existed. I understand the country has serious problems.
Did our government, military do their best overseas?
I think so.
The Nanos Poll show the CPC are at the same level of support they were in 2008 election results.
The Liberals are much worse and the NDP are gaining. So again why do I care again?
We have tuned out the scandals generated by the media and opposition.
At 8:38 PM,
Eugene Forsey Liberal said…
Anon @8.11: weak. NDP filibuster antics were foolish from the start and led to terrible outcome. Dippers should be ashamed of themselves. Don't play dumb - OF COURSE the Govt was going to do everything they could to shut off questioning. And the NDP played right into their hands, giving them the perfect excuse. If such basic parliamentary tactics and coordination are so beyond Dippers like yourself, that explains a lot about NDP incompetence. Or you're just spinning and NDP were acting maliciously, against Libs (& Dewar?). Knaves or fools? Knowing NDP, fools. Will as usual console themselves that this massive own goal is result of highmindedness. Classic doublethink - gutter politics over HST justifies innocent self-defeating idealism over torture. Bring Blaikie Back! Make Dewar Leader Now! Of course won't happen, you're all happily under thumb of Annex Luvvies and doomed to never win in Saskatchewan as long as Jackie's leader. I've often criticised Iggy as a hollow man, playing a part, but what does that make Layton, who's mimicking Iggy? A copy of a copy of a copy. We're way into l'Illusion comique here. Sad. Knowles would be ashamed.
At 8:56 PM,
CanadianSense said…
EFL
I have not watched it so I can't defend the NDP games.
My original point was why would the NDP not want to support their coalition partner to destroy support for the mission?
Very few liberals actually supported the extension. The NDP and Bloc have always been against the mission.
At 10:58 PM,
wilson said…
Harper is not going to call an inquiry.
Climategate will kill Hopenhagen.
Dahlton and Campbell will get blamed for the HST.
The Dippers will be neck in neck with the Libs after Christmas.
And, Sarah Palin will have a higher approval rating than Obama.
At 11:33 PM,
Anonymous said…
Has anyone else thought about this possibility?
General Natynschuk suddenly appears with this field document today showing that the detainee was indeed captured by Canadians, yet this document had seemingly never made it up through the ranks. Hmmm. So we can't blame him, because he never saw it. Nor can we blame Hillier, McKay, Connors, etc., because they hadn't seen it either.
Where did this document suddenly appear from???
This is all part of the plan to get all the *big guys* off the hook and pin this on some subordinate.
It's a pattern. First Colvin--then ??
At 1:16 AM,
Dion_Liberal said…
Did you watch the proceedings at the House of Commons today? The Conservatives were the ones that shutdown the debate, which also shut down the Afghanistan committee. Not the NDP. Your hatred of Jack Layton really blinds you from the truth.
At 7:13 AM,
Greg said…
I am no fan of the NDP at the moment myself. However, Liberals should not kid themselves. If it hadn't been the NDP motion, it would have been something else. This is a PM who shut down Parliament to escape a vote. He will do anything to survive.
At 7:49 AM,
CanadianSense said…
The CPC only have led with a minority since winning power in 2006, how do you explain their ability to govern without an effective opposition?
The public decided to give them more seats and punish the Liberals in October 2008 by awarding the Liberals with 26.3% a historic low.
Why won't the NDP-Lib coalition backed by the Bloc remove their confidence over the "explosive field notes"?
Apparently the government forgot to redact the "field" notes.
At 9:06 AM,
Anonymous said…
I see that nutcase CanadianSense is soiling this blog as well.
What is with you Liberal bloggers that you put up with these career trolls? Are you all masochists or something?
At 1:36 PM,
Eugene Forsey Liberal said…
Greg, you're right that they are trying everything they can to distract, which is precisely why parliamentary strategy should take that into account and not engage in foolishness, like HST antics, that are a gift to Govt, allowing them to invoke closure at strategic moments to shut down questioning. It speaks incredibly poorly of NDP that they didn't consider this and didn't coordinate their parliamentary agenda so as to avoid the probability of Con tactics. That is extraordinary incompetence by a parliamentary caucus and office, and I don't think it would have happened when the NDP still had members like Blaikie, or further back, Knowles, who understood such things. Unless it wasn't incompetence and they actually wanted to avoid Dewar getting more facetime. But knowing Layton NDP, it was incompetence.
At 2:46 PM,
CanadianSense said…
How does a minority CPC government dictate how things are done again?
Apparently basic math escapes most people. The CPC can't pass a Single Bill without the support of another party.
Who agreed with closure?....check with the Provincial premiers Dalton, Campbell or their "yes" man Iggy.
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