Eugene Forsey Liberal

Friday, December 04, 2009

Screw China

All torture is evil, whether Afghan, American or Chinese. The Chinese Govt are authoritarian gangsters. Bombardier, iconic company for minority obsessed by "survivance", whose iconic product, the ski-doo, itself harkens to survivance motif, built a railroad designed to facilitate ethnic cleansing, murder, torture & general repression of another conquered minority. Shame on Bombardier, shame on QC, Cdn & Irish governments for backing them, shame on citizenry for quiescence, and shame on Liberal membership & party, given links to Bombardier, for our role in it and for not speaking out. What sort of supposed democracy puts dollars before human rights? If willing to deal with China, who AREN'T you willing to deal with? At the very least, those in favour of "engagement" should be honest about what we're accepting. Simpson's weasel words on this have shocked me. There are two views: we engage as much as possible in the hope that economic transformation leads to democratic change (and for reasons of economic self-interest), or we do everything we can to signal our condemnation of hideous government, exercising maximum pressure, whatever that might cost us (and them, since they need us too). The only thing to be criticised here is incoherence and dishonesty. If you think we should engage, that's legitimate, but at least have the decency to be honest about what you're willing to ignore, widespread government murder, torture, Boer-type concentration camps, massive repression, forced organ harvesting, etc.. . If you think we should protest to the max, fine, but admit what they will likely cost us economically and therefore, in Canadian lives. And whichever you support, the strategy only makes sense if you go all-in. If you really think, and not for reasons of self-interest, that we can best effect change through quiet dialogue, with occasional pro-forma speeches, then we should do absolutely everything to strengthen our economic links. If you think that the Chinese Govt is just too evil and we should do as little as possible that could be seen as condoning them, then we need to drastically cut ties. I argue about this all the time. I simply can't support ignoring the evil nature of the regime. Same as having free-trade with Colombia, for me. But I recognise that I could well be wrong, that China is just too big, unlike Colombia, etc.. Maybe so. But sooner you than me, shaking hands, smiling and signing deals with those thugs. Screw 'em. Screw China. The sooner the Chinese Squealers & Napoleons are overthrown, the better.

4 Comments:

  • At 10:53 AM, Blogger Ian said…

    Harper gave a half-assed "we'll still stand up for human rights" mention today, but it's depressing how no politicians in this country will stand up for equality of everyone, everywhere.

    Great post.

     
  • At 1:17 PM, Blogger LeDaro said…

    Okay, China is bad. Real bad. But what moral authority do we have to tell them that? Afghanistan torturegate, mistreatment of Natives similar to Tiananmen Square style.

     
  • At 4:48 AM, Blogger Eugene Forsey Liberal said…

    LeDaro, I think or hope you have temporarily lost perspective on the incomparable superiority of Canadian democracy to Chinese Gangsterism. The South African Apartheid regime use to make the same false equivalences. Whatever our faults, I am sure I don't need to explain to you how absurd such comparisons were and remain (liberty, formal equality, democratic standards and balances, programs to help disadvantaged minorities, etc.) Best, EFL

     
  • At 6:47 PM, Blogger LeDaro said…

    I am all for human rights in China, however, do we have moral authority to lecture them. How can people forget Oka crisis and many other Native human rights violations? http://archives.cbc.ca/politics/civil_unrest/topics/99/

    The whole world is telling us that there has been and probably is torture prevalent in Afghanistan of detainees handed over by Canada to Afghan authorities. Are Afghanis not humans?

    Our past is troubled too -treatment of Chinese, treatment of Japanese during Second World War. There is a need for human rights improvement everywhere. Leaders of every nation will like to tell their people that they are the best in the world but we have to do the reality check every so often.

     

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