Eugene Forsey Liberal

Tuesday, April 13, 2010

We Are Undertaxed! Check Out OECD & Carolyn Bennett

19 OECD countries tax more than us, all those with decent services, and until recently, only 10 taxed slightly less - Mexico, Turkey, Korea, USA, Japan, Switzerland, Slovakia, Ireland, Australia and Greece. However, given their troubles, some of those ten will be taxing more, like Ireland, Greece and the USA (plus Obamacare tax effects). Which extremes should we be comparing ourselves to, Mexico & Turkey, or Denmark & Sweden? Look, our tax burden is 16% lower than the EU 15 average (ie. Western Europe - we're still 14% than EU 19 average including less comparable Eastern European countries). Keep in mind that these numbers are based on 2007 numbers and provisional 2008 information, so given how much better placed we are compared to others, esp. post-recession, the margins are probably even wider, and growing. We can easily raise taxes a bit to pay for cost growth, as Finance has noted: "Even very large increases in health spending as a share of GDP are technically feasible, provided citizens choose to devote an ever increasing portion of GDP to the health-care system and are willing to pay for its cost."

As Carolyn Bennett recently reminded us, "There's no question that Canadians sometimes expect to be able to pay American level taxes and have European level services". But forced to choose, they pick the services and commensurate taxes. Actually, Bennett has been full of good sense on health care recently, on QC budget & user fees. She's giving a speech in Chicago tomorrow Healthcare: Understanding the Future. Could be interesting. She provides a useful backgrounder in the form of a brief and easily understandable Powerpoint presentation by Monique Bégin & Judy Erola.

2 Comments:

  • At 7:30 AM, Blogger CanadianSense said…

    Not sure if you have been in Canada lately but HST, Carbon Tax, GST increase are not campaign winners.

    Raising corporate rate (evil bankers is sexy but won't work) Banks and near-monopolies will pass those taxes-costs to middle class.

    Will the Liberals lie during campaign and raise them after?

    Payroll tax is going back up after the freeze for the last few years $ 13 billion and Liberals won't be able to use it for General Revenues.

    How are the Liberals treating that user fee tax? Are they going to not raise the payroll tax rate for employers and employees?

    Hydro rates are going up by 10-15% per annum for next few years to pay for those giant fans.

    The question is will voters elect a government that treats the limited tax dollars fairly or will they tolerate more wasteful spending and entitlement programs.

    See Dingwall, Maple Three Reactors.

    Those voters in Europe are demanding achievable measurable outcomes vs simply redistribution of wealth. Socialism has hurt Eastern European countries.

    Socialist Central Planning Governments "we know best" idealogy vs a decentralized approach is losing.

    Average Taxpayers don't have room to donate more.

    TD executives, millionaires, Gold plated pension MP's are not in touch with the economic reality for the middle class.

    Can you be more specific in your list of "best practices" from the OECD countries and their economic tax models?

     
  • At 5:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    In South Korea, they have a flat tax rate. So everyone pays tax on the amount of money they make. If a company made millions or billions they get to pay tax on it unlike Canada. Anyong

     

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